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  Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 6:38:56 PM    View the profile of Drac 
This's jumping the gun a little bit, but since we are going to need some structure for movie-happy new members:

If at all possible, and regardless of how things work out with branches vs a single combined force for now, let's do a unified academy for new members. It'll encourage camaraderie between all members, and also reduces staffing and infrastructure requirements.

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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 8:12:22 PM    View the profile of Trevor Evenson 
Only thing for that is if/when we split back into two branches, the things people need to know about the Navy are decidedly different than from the Army. At least in terms of what they will be writing about (flight maneuvers vs ground movements). I'm not saying I'm against it, especially for now, but if things ever get large enough again it only makes sense to split it up - maybe do a joint basic training kind of thing to get writing styles sorted out, and once a new recruit has chosen a division, there is an advanced training section geared more specifically towards either side?
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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 8:22:14 PM    View the profile of Havock 
It's been awhile but I think we were already planning to do this, basically exactly as Trevor explained, the recruit did basic regardless of division then did specialty in their selected division.

Anyone else remember this?
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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 8:22:32 PM    View the profile of StOrMz 
I believe we had a discussion several years ago about this. Trevor's basic-basic training for unified training would work well. I think you could then leave it up to the Flight Leader/Fireteam Leader to help train for the writing.
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December 15, 2015 8:25:13 PM    View the profile of Havock 
Yes, I definitely think its the way to go for now. Emphasis on recruit understanding terminology and procedure for posting rather than writing skillz to start I'd think.
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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 8:50:04 PM    View the profile of StOrMz 
100% agree.
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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 10:58:19 PM    View the profile of Drac 
That all sounds great to me. Everyone goes to basic together, then get specialty training as a sort of introduction/transition to their branch or unit.

Frankly, due to the development that has to go into an academy's material, if we're pretty close to settled on the direction we want to head then we need to select one or two people to spearhead it and get them started with planning and development asap.

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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 15, 2015 11:50:28 PM    View the profile of Slasher 
Ok, so nothing specific yet, but here is just some ideas I brought up with Drac on Facebook wanted to share here.

Proposed New Training Department:

Chief of Training:

Position to be filled by the Chief of Training for either the Navy or the Army, directly responsible for All training related events in their branch, and Primary advisor on the administrative side of things for their counterpart in the opposite branch.

Chief of Naval Training/Army Training Officer:

Responsible for the branch not served by the Chief of Training, Has the final say within their branch, but assists the Chief of Training with the overall running of the overall running of the training program.

Chief of Staff:

One per branch, replacing the old Training Executive Officer position, responsible for day to day running of their respective branches training operations in the absence of their Chief.

Operator levels 1 and 2:

Initially will only be one or two of these per training department, Responsible for day to day operations of Basic Training and Initial Starfighter Training/General Infantry Training, answers to their Chief of Staff and/or Chief of Training (level 1 responsible for Basic only, Level 2 responsible for Basic and Branch Specific)

Trainer:
Responsible for grading and guiding members through the Officer Candidate School for both branches, and for running Squadron Command/Ship Command/Squad/Platoon/Company Command training for their particular branch.

Now I do not expect this to be implemented all at once, and as a matter of fact, we can probably make do with a Chief of Training, Chief of Naval Training/Army Training Officer, and a single Chief of Staff for each branch, with one or two Operator Level 1's for right now until we make sure exactly what we want to do more in depth.

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  RE: Unified Military Academy
December 16, 2015 12:52:45 AM    View the profile of Mongrel 
Really we only need like one guy, who I'm going to call The Professor, to run the training, maybe give them a TA if we start getting swamped. The whole point of the training should be to familiarize them with the site and way the club basically works. It really doesn't need to be a long process. Make sure they know their way around, then have them to a bio, then kick them to their unit. Any kind of IC job training can be handled at the unit level since most Junior VE-ers tend to just follow their squads lead in my experience. It's more valuable that they know how to participate than if they know the IC specifics of their job or that their writing be perfect. That stuff is easily picked up as they go along, in some cases much easier to pick up when they're actively working with their unit.
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December 16, 2015 1:44:15 AM    View the profile of Drac 
I think three people total would be ideal right now. One person to run the academy and oversee putting material together, as well as doing a lot of the basic training. And then two others, preferably one who primarily writes a trooper and one that primarily writes a pilot, who can be available to help recruits through the basic training as well so that it's not all dependent on the head of the academy's activity. Or even just two people, with the assistant writing primarily on the other side than the head of the academy.

From there we can eventually grow it toward Slasher's model or something similar as the club's needs dictate.

It's just not wise to put it all on one person, though, while at the same time the 6-person minimum that Slasher outlined is way more than we need right now. Two or three is a good number for the academy staff.

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December 16, 2015 2:15:16 AM    View the profile of Sniping101 
Understandable, not wanting to put it all on one person, but I'm also talking about cutting basic training down to something that's pretty, well, basic and focusing it more on learning the site, how to find info they might need and not, I say again, not, stuff that's going to make much difference if their trainer is Army or Navy, most training that's unique to the branch should really be handled by the unit the recruit ends up in. Part of the reason I'm pointing so strongly to that is because anything you learn in that training is just going to be retaught by the standards of the command structure the recruit ends up it.

For example, back when the Army had six-ish active squads and two platoons, each platoon did things quite differently and each squad did things quite differently. Everybody that got put in a squad had to learn that squads way of doing things.

This also gives them the opportunity to be trained by their peers as much as their command and makes learning the quirks somewhat more organic and easily assimilated.

We really shouldn't be worrying about recruits writing ability right out of the gate, or their accuracy, so really all they should need to know in basic is how to do it, maybe have them write a sample post on a story, but not to critique it, to ensure they are familiar enough with the systems to do it. SL's can help them clean up their prose and work on accuracy and skill. Peer review is about the most useful tool for that anyway.
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December 16, 2015 9:49:41 AM    View the profile of Trykon 
I literally just did all this, including the wiki pages, in the last couple days, over at the EE: http://empiresedge.com/holonet/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=667&p=6868#p6868

It's simple, it's streamlined, it gets people writing.
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