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Status: Offline |  RE: The Fleet | June 15, 2008 2:15:38 PM  | |
There's no such thing as 'Army' ships, so no, they don't belong in the army.
Ships that are used as transports, or whatever else you use them for are still in the Navy, but they would be part of the Army Logistics division or something.
Either way, they've got to be put on the roster. "I'm no Physician, but there appears to be a dagger through my chest."
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 12:00:55 AM | |
Then I suppose all the helicopters and fighter jets used by the US Navy and Army all belong to the US Air Force huh? -(William the Conquerer)-
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 12:05:20 AM | |
Alright, well when we start role playing as the United States Armed Forces, then we can have this discussion, ok? "I'm no Physician, but there appears to be a dagger through my chest."
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 7:49:16 AM | |
He's got a point Ibram. Vessels like the Dominion, etc. are not used by the Navy, and are even piloted by Army members. They are not technically part of the Navy, and should be listed on the Army Roster, not the Navy roster.
And while you have a point on this subject Willt, if you're going to be so fastidious about things while retired, I would suggest returning to active duty before throwing in your very strong input. Kam "Denethor" Vox
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 8:55:24 AM | |
So would VEI ships be considered Army or Navy? TRP/SGTDante/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE*HeavyWeapons * "Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita...""And I looked, and behold a pale horse And his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Revelation 6:8 |
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 9:04:06 AM | |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 9:57:22 AM | |
I tried to Convince Will to go into active duty... tried to... but then he went off to the army. And Ibram I am working on a Template for First Vast Imperial Fleet... FM/Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi/Kaph 2/Phoenix Wing/m SSD Atrus/1FL/VEN/VE (=A=)[MC1] Kaph Flight One, Kaph TwoWe have great faith in eachother, it is called stupidity.Kaph Squadron, The Captain's OwnZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 5:15:38 PM | |
I'm usually not one for making absolute-type statements, but I'll make this one before the argument over it continues any more.
The ships listed on the Army roster are not a part of the Navy fleet. At all. The end. Fleet Admiral Japheth Cappadocious, Krath Templar
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 8:01:15 PM | |
And if they aren't on the roster? TRP/SGTDante/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE*HeavyWeapons *"Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita...""And I looked, and behold a pale horse And his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Revelation 6:8 |
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 11:23:31 PM | |
Responding directly to Dante, who seems to have missed the spirit of my post, though certainly not the letter:
Army ships are not Navy ships.
Is that clear enough for everyone? Is there any room for further comment there? I hope not.
Continue on with the Naval ship discussion. :P Fleet Admiral Japheth Cappadocious, Krath Templar
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 11:26:14 PM | |
Sooooo....
When do I get a ship?
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 11:27:05 PM | |
Wait... random question... Japheth you are the captain of the Atrus rite? FM/Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi/Kaph 2/Phoenix Wing/m SSD Atrus/1st Flight/VEN/Vast Empire (=A=)[MC1] Kaph Flight One, Kaph TwoWe have great faith in eachother, it is called stupidity.Kaph Squadron, The Captain's OwnZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 16, 2008 11:28:15 PM | |
that's what the roster says right? Kam "Denethor" Vox
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 17, 2008 6:19:07 AM | |
....god damn you Japheth..... >.>
/me secretly puts the army ships on the roster... "I'm no Physician, but there appears to be a dagger through my chest."
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 17, 2008 7:10:04 PM | |
1) Japheth is top Admiral, therefore should not be contradicted. 2) Ambasador Furgan of Carida was an Army Officer who had a small fleet to defend Carida; all were crewed by Army personel, not Navy. Since Carida hasn't been destroyed yet he should still have a Dreadnaught-class HC, maybe more. Something about warlords stealing his ships...  We nead another Pilot Smily... |
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 17, 2008 8:31:33 PM | |
The only ships we are worried about are the ones that belong to the VEN :P Imperial Navy-Kaph Squadron (The Captains Own)
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 18, 2008 5:27:30 PM | |
*flexes roster access*
*flexes roster access granting power*
*denies access* Fleet Admiral Japheth Cappadocious, Krath Templar
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 18, 2008 5:48:13 PM | |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 19, 2008 6:49:45 PM | |
Elite, Admiral Japheth is.  [This message has been edited by Starbukk (edited June 19, 2008 6:51:23 PM)] |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 19, 2008 8:14:17 PM | |
Aww... no auxiliaries... *sniff*  Sergeant Keneka Alibek Trooper, IronHorseSquadTRP/SGT Ken/1SQD/1PLT/1CO/1BN/1RGT/Tadath/VEA VE Wiki page |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 23, 2008 2:04:35 PM | |
While we are at it anyone wanna gather together info on the systems and such used in stories? [FM][Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi][Kaph 2][Phoenix Wing][m SSD Atrus][1st Flight][VEN][Vast Empire] [=A=][MC1] Kaph Flight One, Kaph TwoWe have great faith in eachother, it is called stupidity.Kaph Squadron, The Captain's OwnZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 23, 2008 4:13:24 PM | |
There are a lot of systems...don't forget the army! TRP/SGTDante/2SQD/1PLT/1COM/1BAT/1RGT/VEA/VE*HeavyWeapons *"Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita...""And I looked, and behold a pale horse And his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Revelation 6:8 |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 24, 2008 12:16:40 AM | |
[FM][Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi][Kaph 2][Phoenix Wing][m SSD Atrus][1st Flight][VEN][Vast Empire] [=A=][MC1] Kaph Flight One, Kaph TwoWe have great faith in eachother, it is called stupidity.Kaph Squadron, The Captain's OwnZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 25, 2008 1:07:12 PM | |
systems are even harder to keep track of than ships lol. and in this case we would probably have to include ones the army has been to as well. the thing is, most systems are "one time visits" for each single missions, we usually don't go back to it once we've had a a battle on one, other wise it turns into a campaign.
though, on the bright side, you only have to look at the first couple posts of a story to find out the system. much simpler than having to go through the whole story to find all the ships used. -(William the Conquerer)-
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 27, 2008 1:34:10 PM | |
Behold! I have been workin' on this for a bit', I need corrections. Click here to see the First Vast Imperial Fleet. [FM][Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi][Viper 8][Phoenix Wing][m SSD Atrus][2nd Flight][VEN][Vast Empire] [=A=][MC1] Viper Flight Two, Viper EightViper Squadron, The Third Starfighter Group We Fly, You DieZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 27, 2008 4:02:07 PM | |
The Fleet looks good, Blue-Leader! Did the ships have heavy modification or is the data still being edited? Normally Imperial Star Destroyers carry one Wing of TIE fighters and Victory Star Destroyers carry only two Squadrons.  |
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Status: Online | | RE: The Fleet | June 27, 2008 6:41:22 PM | |
That is still the case with the VE's ships.
See above for my description of why some ships have a wing listed and some have nothing at all. I can post the squadrons too, if you want. High Admiral Japheth Cappadocious, Krath Templar
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HM/KT Japheth Cappadocious/DC-3/Krath Order/Elite Griffen Sect/VEDJ/VE/[SoY][EoP] [This message has been edited by Japheth (edited June 27, 2008 6:43:55 PM)] |
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Status: Offline | | RE: The Fleet | June 27, 2008 9:37:30 PM | |
[FM][Senior Crewman Zhar Bacredi][Viper 8][Phoenix Wing][m SSD Atrus][2nd Flight][VEN][Vast Empire] [=A=][MC1] Viper Flight Two, Viper EightViper Squadron, The Third Starfighter Group We Fly, You DieZhar Bacredi's Wiki |
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